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Wrong category

I just uploaded a picture.I think it's in wrong category. What should I do? Sorry if this is the wrong place to ask. Nil Nandy (talk) 00:47, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

@Nil Nandy: Hi, and welcome. You put File:Roxburgh monument,AJC Bose Indian Botanical Garden.jpg in Category:Roxburgh Building, Shibpur. Why is that wrong? What is the right category?   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 00:52, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
I think it should be in Category:Roxburgh Monument, Howrah
. Please change the category. Nil Nandy (talk) 00:55, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
Thank you, already solved it. Nil Nandy (talk) 01:08, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
@Nil Nandy: You're welcome. (NOTE: The following line is a test of an indented template, please do not touch unless the bot came by and ignored it)   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 01:28, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
This section was archived on a request by:   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 01:28, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

Aide

Beaucoup de difficulté pour restaurer tous les pages Moncefdhk999 (talk) 09:56, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

Help
Lots of difficulty restoring all pages
translator: Google Translate via   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 11:54, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
@Moncefdhk999: Bonjour et bienvenue. Quelles pages essayez-vous de restaurer ?

Hi, and welcome. What pages are you trying to restore?   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 11:46, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
The OP was globally locked thanks to EPIC.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 12:19, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
This section was archived on a request by:   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 12:19, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

Help needed with 1900-images: Test-image

Hello! I have now uploaded a test-image which serves as a template for the remaining ca. 1900 images I am also going to upload via OpenRefine. Could someone please have a look at the page of this test image and tell me, if I made any significant error, so that I can adjust the template (the data is created using a Python-script) for the remaining images? Thank you in advance! CalRis25 (talk) 18:02, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

Does the image actually illustrate "abacus" or might it refer to another article on the same page? In the later case, I wouldn't include it in the filename. (I read the explanation on the file description page ("Alveus is the lemma or headword of the article, in which the image appears").
 ∞∞ Enhancing999 (talk) 18:40, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
  • Yes, the image does illustrate the word and article "abacus" The section Structure of the file name contains only an example for a file name. This section is the same for all 1900 images. I just changed the page to make it clear that the file name is merely an example. Is there anything else? CalRis25 (talk) 08:45, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
    Ok. It sometimes happens that similar works include an image on the same page, but not necessarily directly within the entry. Also I thought the section "Structure of the file name" was just for the test. If not, I'd add it in the information template with " | Other fields = ", probably as a template.
    I hoped someone might suggest you a different way to fill "description=", "source=" and "creator=", but I didn't comment on that aspect.
     ∞∞ Enhancing999 (talk) 10:06, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
I fixed the license. Yann (talk) 09:21, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
Thanks to both of you, Enhancing999 and Yann! I changed the template accordingly (note: I could not apply the license-fix to the structured data because PD-old-100-expired could not be reconciled with Wikidata). Otherwise, the output looks a lot nicer now due to the incorporation of the file name structure in the Information-Box. See test-image 6. If there are no further suggestions until tomorrow, I am going to start with the batch upload (first small chunks, later larger ones). CalRis25 (talk) 17:46, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
@CalRis25: can you explain what you mean by "PD-old-100-expired could not be reconciled with Wikidata"? Copyright status for Lot and His Daughters (Q3837479) would appear to be exactly equivalent to that. - Jmabel ! talk 21:45, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
Quite simple. If I put {{PD-old-100-expired}} into a CSV-column of the OpenRefine-input file and reconcile this column with Wikidata, then I get the result "Create the new item." If, however, this column contains {{PD-old-100}}, then I get the reconciliation-result 100 years or more after author(s) death (Q29940705). — Preceding unsigned comment added by CalRis25 (talk • contribs) 07:29, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
Does anyone know how to address this in Wikidata and/or OpenRefine?
Failing that, can OpenRefine handle multiple permission tags? If your cannot use {{PD-old-100-expired}} can you use {{PD-old-100}} plus {{PD-US-expired}}? - Jmabel ! talk 12:50, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
Hello Jmabel! I am moving this specific discussion to this Village_pump/Copyright-thread, as that seems to be the appropriate place to discuss this. Thank you for your support. CalRis25 (talk) 11:35, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
At Abacus 4.1, I did a sample alternative formatting. The idea is to start with the description of the image "Abacus" and making that easily editable by other users. The remaining of the description being more static, it's in "other fields 1". Possibly "Type of object image is based on:" could be copied into the description as well. "Place of discovery" and "Place in 1849" maybe too, but they are empty in this sample.
 ∞∞ Enhancing999 (talk) 22:21, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
Your edit of the formatting makes sense, because it better distinguishes the bits that are likely to be edited by users and those which will stay the same. I moved the Type- and Place-bits into the description, however, because that makes the information box easier to (mentally) digest. I also reordered it a bit. Thank you for your help. Abacus 4.1 looks better now and makes more sense. CalRis25 (talk) 13:52, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
I'd avoid bold, field like parts in the description text entirely. How about Special:Diff/919327534: If the text for SAMPLE1 and SAMPLE2 is empty, these parts of description= would be skipped. They'd still be present in other_fields_1 below.
 ∞∞ Enhancing999 (talk) 14:05, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
I disagree. Comparing my previous version with your change, I think that the first one is better: Reasons: a) most image-specific stuff (i.e. different from image to image) is close together, b) all items reasonably expected to be changed are within the same box, c) items like type and place without attached information clearly indicate that this information is missing and should be added, and d) SAMPLE1 and SAMPLE2 not necessarily are nouns which can be simply replaced. Your template is more machine-compatible, I guess, by isolating each item of information, but at the price of making the information more difficult to be digested by us lowly humans. I believe, that a more anthropocentric approach is better in this case. I will revert to my previous edit, but thank you for your effort. CalRis25 (talk) 14:49, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
Hello Enhancing999! I'm referring to your latest edit of the file Abacus 4.1. From this new alternative formatting of the template and the first and second alternative formattings before that, I take that keeping the information about type and place in separate fields (other fields) and keeping the description simple is a big issue. If that is so, I think that version 1 of these alternative formattings (with a bit of reshuffling of the order) is preferable. If I understood your edits correctly, please say so. I will then change the template accordingly before beginning the actual batch-upload. CalRis25 (talk) 22:32, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
@CalRis25: I suggest you put the text of the "Structure of the file name" section into a template; or better still, put it on the parent category page and use a short template message on each file page to refer people there. You could probably also template the {{para|source}] data. Finally, apply a category like "1849 woodcuts". Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:40, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
Hello! Someone already changed the "Structure"-section into a template (thanks to whoever did it). I added the category 1849 illustrations instead of 1849 woodcuts, because I am not entirely sure about the exact type of reproduction used. I will leave the source-data in the Information-box itself without using a template. I am happy enough with how it looks now, and I do not think that any changes to the source section will be necessary. Plus, it now includes the respective lemma with a link to the page in the Archive.org-edition. In the worst case scenario, a batch-edit using OpenRefine should do the trick. CalRis25 (talk) 14:00, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
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I think that this question was replied to adequately based on the supplied information. If you have anything to add or a follow-up question please feel free to replace this box with your comment. This section will be archived after two days. CalRis25 (talk) 07:17, 7 September 2024 (UTC)

Posted a request for temporary undeletion, suspect I've formatted it incorrectly.

Hi. I have posted a request for the temporary undeletion of a file that was deleted a few months ago. The file was in use at Wikikids, a Dutch language site based on the Vikidia project.

The problem is that it's not been seen or commented on, while others are getting attended quickly, and it made me wonder if I have muddled a request for undeletion, with a request for temporary undeletion, and formatted the request incorrectly.

Could someone please have a look at this: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Undeletion_requests/Current_requests#File:Male_anatomy_nl.png: and tell me if I've made any errors, or if I simply have to just sit and wait for someone to pick it up and attend to it please?

Thank you. DaneGeld (talk) 20:24, 9 September 2024 (UTC)

I've temporarily undeleted the file so it can be transferred to Wikikids as a fair use file. I did see your UDR before, temporary undeletion tends to be very time sensitive. Abzeronow (talk) 20:43, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
Thanks, I appreciate your help. I wasn't sure if I'd screwed it up! DaneGeld (talk) 20:52, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
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I think that this question was replied to adequately based on the supplied information. If you have anything to add or a follow-up question please feel free to replace this box with your comment. This section will be archived after two days. Abzeronow (talk) 20:55, 9 September 2024 (UTC)

আমার ছবি আপলোড করতে চাই কিভাবে করবো অভিজ্ঞতা সম্পন্ন কেই সহযোগিতা করুন।

আমার ছবি আপলোড করতে চাই কিভাবে করবো অভিজ্ঞতা সম্পন্ন কেই সহযোগিতা করুন। মহিউদ্দিন খান উইকিপিডিয়া (talk) 06:36, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Help:Contents/hi, Commons:First_steps/Uploading_files/hi. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 07:15, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
This is not Hindi, but Bengali ;o). So rather Help:Contents/bn, Commons:First_steps/Uploading_files/bn. Yann (talk) 09:15, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
Yikes. I can confirm this was my error and DuckDuckGo got it correct. :/ Thanks/merci, Yann. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 09:25, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

গ্ৰামের ছবি নেই তাহলে কি করব

গ্ৰামের ছবি নেই তাহলে কি করব Mizanur mondal (talk) 17:58, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

(via Google Translate:) "What should I do if there is no picture of the village?"

Help needed with 273 images (move)

All images (currently 273) in Category:Locator maps of Bundestag constituencies should be moved to the subcategory Bundestagswahlkreise 2025. Too many to move manually. Thanks 2003:E5:370F:FC00:F4D1:7BC:AB59:276E 22:13, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

  • ✓ Done I would like to strongly urge you to create an account. Trusting you on this required a leap of faith on my part, because I really don't know the subject matter here, and a particular IP address could easily be a different person than last edited from that address. If you edit while logged in to an account, it is much easier to be confident that you have a track record of being competent and well-intentioned. - Jmabel ! talk 22:48, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

ライセンスの日付について

選択された日付はライセンス(I read online somewhere that these are in the public domain in United States)と合致しません。 と出ます。 どこに日付が載っているのでしょうか？ よろしくお願いいたします。 Bluepurple8 (talk) 10:18, 9 September 2024 (UTC)

申し訳ありません。解決しました。 Bluepurple8 (talk) 11:50, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
This section was archived on a request by: (User apparently answered own question.) Jmabel ! talk 07:12, 10 September 2024 (UTC)

File:Taiwan Pride 2011-10-29 073 (6302568080).jpg

This picture was taken too dark, so I need someone with experience in photo retouching or image manipulation. I would be extremely grateful if you could please improve the brightness.--125.230.67.195 07:50, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

I recommend posting your request here: Commons:Graphic Lab/Photography workshop. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 08:56, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
✓ Done --PantheraLeo1359531 😺 (talk) 12:17, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

Hello

I would like to ask everyone if the image I uploaded is legal. It was taken at Mahathir Mohamad birth home and is a photo from before 1962 (taken in 1939). Baginda 480 (talk) 11:23, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

@Baginda 480: We have no way to know the publication history or the death date of the author. It is your responsibility to sort out this sort of thing for photos you upload. - Jmabel ! talk 17:56, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

Can you upload photos of football NEW cards

I have been in hot water lately for photos that I did not realize were copyrighted. So I was wondering if I took photos of football cards would that still be a copyright violation even though I took the photo of the card, yes I know this is a dumb and stupid question, but I just want to know. WhyIsThisSoHard575483838 (talk) 15:28, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

You should assume that any piece of media is copyrighted until you know otherwise. The most common exceptions to this in the United States are works that are very old (usually about a century) or that were made by the federal government. There are obviously other exceptions, but those are the biggest. Sometimes when someone owns the copyright to a work, he will license it in a way that allows it to be shared. If the copyright owner does this, it will always be very clear, because that person will explicitly tell you, usually with some kind of Creative Commons notice. See COMM:LICENSE for acceptable licenses. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 16:22, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
Probably not. Unless something is explicitly free licensed (see COM:Licence) or out of copyright for a demonstrable explicit reason, generally assume it is copyrighted and cannot be uploaded to Commons (unless the copyright holder gives specific permission to share it under a free license). -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 16:17, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
@WhyIsThisSoHard575483838: I strongly recommend that if you are interested in uploading images that are not entirely your own original work you should make a point of becoming at least passingly familiar with the copyright laws of the country you live in. - Jmabel ! talk 17:59, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

Uploaden and what next?

Sorry, I am an absolute beginner. I tried to upload text to be published in Wikipedia, I managed to reach the first step, What do I need to do next? Zzylicz (talk) 14:30, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

@Zzylicz, presumably you are asking about edits you made on the Polish or Dutch Wikipedias. You have to ask on those Wikipedias. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:08, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

Different scans of old photos

I uploaded a file called File:Liu Hongsheng in Volume 10 of "Xikao".png.It is a screenshot of a scanned copy of a book published in 1920, but it's very unclear. I found a clearer version on other page[1], so can I upload it? If so, should I replace the picture or upload it as an another picture? 杰里毛斯 (talk) 15:23, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

You can upload it as a new file. We have a very clear list of reasons that overwriting is allowed. Otherwise, always upload as a new file. All the Best -- Chuck Talk 15:43, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
Thank you. I'm not sure if the photo on the webpage have been digitally restored. If it's restored by others, can I still upload it? Sorry for my poor English. ——杰里毛斯 (talk) 16:09, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
The file has not been restored by others, you can go ahead and upload the new file. Hypothetically, if someone had already overwritten the file with the restoration, If there are significant changes made, someone would have forked the files as commons policy is significant restorations are uploaded separately. All the Best -- Chuck Talk 16:23, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
Sorry, My English is poor. What I mean is that the color of the picture I picked from the book is quite different from that in the website I cited above. I don't know if the one in the website has been artificially repaired, and I don't know if such a repair will be protected by copyright.——杰里毛斯 (talk) 16:36, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
I don't believe restorations are covered by copyright as they are not artistic in nature. In general, once due diligence is done, you are good to upload. If your image is deleted, learn from it and avoid repeating that mistake. No one is expected to be perfect. All the Best -- Chuck Talk 16:55, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
Thank you very much! I have uploaded it as a new file.——杰里毛斯 (talk) 03:29, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
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